This is the Uncle Jack interview that was the entire July 1998 ," towards Cable TV filmed issue of Big Time Music Trade Magazine.  It was our "Nice Try,"  towards Cable TV filmed at the now closed J.T.'s Pub on Water Street in Augusta Maine.     A web-site search shows Uncle Jack is still around.  All Other personnel phone numbers will be deleted.  Since we did publish Radio Station Phone numbers with this interview, but thru buy-outs probably don't have the same telephone numbers we will delete these as well.  We won't print Uncle Jack's contact information until we are able to Verify it.
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Big Time :  Hi, we're back at the Crazy River in Downtown Augusta with Uncle Jack.  Guys, could you please introduce yourself and the instruments' you play?
Scott Labbe - Vocals
Chris Michaud  - Bass
Ted Warner - Guitar
Mike Stevens  - Drums
Big Time :  The question that I'd like to ask is how were you able to get Budweiser to sponsor your band?  Was it a difficult process to go through, or was it fairly easy?
Scott :  It's weird.  It's difficult for an upcoming band like us to get someone like Budweiser, like was really hard; but we prevailed.
( Scott states this while holding a plastic Budweiser cup. )
Chris :  We figured that if we drank enough beer, they would sponsor us, so we proved it and had a marathon.
Ted :  And it turned us all into drinkers. (NOT) -But our fans.
Scott :  Besides our tabs every night are more than what we make; so that gave them a good incentive. 
Ted :  And that was difficult too, since we don't...drink a lot.
Chris :  In all seriousness, we do want to thank our promoter Razor Ray; who is here I believe, and makes a lot of connections for us.  You need a good promoter.  I think that where it comes in, promotions.  It is a big part of the music industry.  A big part of the recording industry is promotions, and if you've got a good promoter behind you, your product is going to go a lot further.
Big Time :  How was it for you to break into the music scene, since heavy metal heavy music is really kind of against the grain of the wood in this area, and so forth.
Mike :  A lot of gigs.  Just keep pounding the cement, and try to expose the band to as many people as you can.  Whether there's 5, 50, or 500 just keep pounding.
Ted :  And be very versatile too.  You can't just play one style.  That's a good thing:  we play different styles.
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Scott :  I started off in a cover band from the Lewiston Area.  We played a lot of not so hard and heavy music and then from there, I said screw that, I want to start an original band.  So that gave us kind of a very gig orientated band, that really helps break the scene.
Big Time :  What type of music is Uncle Jack performing right now?
Scott :  Modern Rock?
Chris :  Modern rock and roll.
Ted :  Funk rock, heavy flavors.
Chris :  A lot of heavy different flavors.  If you want to put a label on us...speaking of labels, here are some of our labels and c.d.'s and tapes.  We can be known as a Heavy band; but from time to time, but also we have some mellow songs, but not everything we do is extremely heavy.
Ted :  The heavy, heavy, heavy bands call us wimps.
Chris :  ( laughing )
Ted :  And people who listen to...
Chris :  92 Moose, to people who listen to Top, top, top 40.  That's Top, top, top 40, they think we are heavy.  So anywhere in between is where we are.
Ted :  We are everything in between.
Chris :  I think we are heavy.
Scott :  We are in between Hootie and the Blowfish and Slayer.
Ted :  With a little bit of Henry Miller.
Big Time :  Are you folks doing a New England Tour, coming up here soon?
Chris :  Well, we are kind of in it right now.  We don't have a Silver Eagle Bus at this point.  This whole summer all of our gigs are
centered around our new C.D., Adhesive, on Backstreet Records.  We also have our first C.D. that came out called Shrink, by our own efforts.
Scott :  Dead box records.
Chris :  Dead Box records.
Scott :  Dead box, Long live. ( Laughs )
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 Chris  We also did a few dates in Providence Rhode Island at the Strand, which is a big theater in the center of the city.  Opened up for Dokken and we were asked back for Ratt + Quiet Riot, which, we both...which for us, is / were big ventures, they really was.  We also got a lot of E-mail.  It created a stir down there, as well as up here in Maine.
Ted :  Can we advertise our webpage?  Hey Ray how do I read this?  Because I don't know how to read this stuff?
Razor Ray :  www.
Ted :  Yeah, yeah, yeah.  How do you do this?  What is it?
Big Time  :  It's Http:// A back street release, Uncle Jack adhesive.
Ted :  That, that, that...what he said, is pretty much it.  (Grabs microphone) and another thing I want to say.
Razor Ray : (off camera) sing a tune for us Ted.
Mike :  If you're going to do that Ted, let me have that.  (Budweiser plastic cup.) Can I take a drink from this?
Ted :  Ah, no...Ammmm...
Big Time :  Let me ask you this question.  Now since the music industry right now is at a stale point, do you think your bands' music might be the next best thing in popular music?
Ted :  Yes.
Chris :  Absolutely.
Ted :  Definitely, this is where it's at. 
Big Time :  Is it because your band has a hybrid style of different styles?
Chris :  It's not a purest style; yup that's very true, and I think that comes, number one from our backgrounds: very diverse backgrounds.  And ahh...
Big Time :  What is your backgrounds as individuals?

Chris :  As individuals?  Well country growing up, and of course the Beatles like any growing up; but then I got into progressive jazz for quite a while---
which lead to chops---building up of chops, not that I use it much anymore...
Ted :  Yes...In case you haven't noticed, he's old, very old, old, old.  Early thirties.
Chris : (laughs)
Big Time :  (Doug smiles, then puts Ted on the spot.) What's your background?
Ted (caught off guard)  My background?  Ah, (laughs) well...
Razor Ray (Off camera) Eddie Van Halen
Chris (Laughs)
Ted :  No, no, everything.  Everything really: Pink Floyd, Van Halen, Aerosmith-----all that old stuff.  Everything from Pink Floyd to Van Halen.
Chris :  We listened to Steve Via------ all the way to the gig.
Ted :  We try to listen to everything.  We try to open our minds to everything--- you know what I mean?  And it had a lot of influences on it, in that way.  You can't just listen to what's on the radio today, because if you do,  you're going to end up sounding like,...
Chris :  What's out there today ?
Ted :  Everything is out there today.  We try to put in some old stuff.  We try to play some old stuff.  We try to play some 80's high-energy rock stuff mixed in with the 90's stuff.  And try and come up with something different instead of just riding coat tails of Bush, Sound Garden, or Green Day and just sound like everyone else.  So we're trying to get something-different going.
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Big Time :  That must take a lot of hours of practice.  How many hours a week does the band practice?
Ted :  We don't.  We just show up at the gigs and play.
Mike :  We're on our way to rehearsal.
Ted :  We've got to play tonight, so that's our rehearsal.
Scott :  We practice about 12 hours a year.
Ted :  That's when we write. (Laughs.)
Big Time :  Do you practice a lot on an individual basis?
Chris :  Actually, what we do is, write.  When we are playing and touring, we don't really practice that much; but then we take like three months off.  Last year we took almost three months off and this last time we did a lot of writing together and we did a lot of practicing and recording an album, a new album, Adhesive, on Backstreet records.  ( Holding C.D. next to his face while smiling like a model on a commercial. )
Ted :  We play so much it's kind of like a redundant to have practice.  It doesn't really work.
Big Time :  Do you practice a lot on the drums.  Try to experiment and come up with new drum fills?
Mike :  Sometimes... Most of the time it's just trying to keep my body healthy enough to play them.  David of Korn Rules.
Big Time :  You play a double bass drum set, correct?

Mike :  Nope, single bass actually.  I sweat a lot when I play, so I work very hard when I play, so it's tough to keep up sometimes.  But the whole thing is to keep your mind fresh and your body works as quick as your mind does.  I get my body to do whatever my mind wants it to.  So to practice something.  I have to keep every part of my body fit, to be able to do what my mind wants it to.

Big Time :  Have you ever come up with any injuries?  Tendon problems?  Tendonitis problems?
Mike :  Well, I've had cuts on my hands.  I've broken knuckles.  I smashed my glasses with my stick.  I broke my nose, well came close to breaking my nose, I had a bloody nose.  I broke my foot one- time skiing and I had to play 2 weeks later.
Big Time :  Which foot did you break?  The right one or the left one?
Mike :  The left one, fortunately it's not my bass foot so...
Ted :  He hurts us too, you know?  Every time he hits that thing and "whap!"
I get ear damage!
Chris :  I suffered a ruptured disc in my neck and we had to cancel a couple of key shows "Harvest Fest 97".
Mike :  I've smashed my knuckles a few times, but that's not anything major, that's just something that happens all the time.
Big Time :  Do you sometimes try to practice a lot so you don't repeat the same drum fill within 45 minutes of the show?
Mike :  No, I have a problem doing that.
Ted : ( Laughs )
Mike :  I do that quite often.  I think you just develop a style and you know it works for the band.  From the first album to the lst album you can see the changes that were playing.  It's more of a progressive thing.  As the band gets older, we all change and have different feelings as we go down the road towards your instruments.
Big Time :  Now can you folks please describe to our audience, the type of 2 videos you have out now?
Ted :  They are really very basic, raw.  It was an experiment.  It was really a first time thing.  The kids that were doing it did a good job and we were the guinea pigs.  We had done another video since then, that have come out better.  Ours just were the first, the very first ones.  They're decent, they're decent.  We never did a video before, so it was just a weird for...
Chris :  We practiced.
Mike :  We came very unprepared.  I mean as far as lighting and scenery.  I mean, we look like we are in a news station for one; but the camera quality  and the picture quality was great and we in turn had some experience doing these things.
Chris :  right, next time it will let us know, is what I wanted to say.
Mike :  Next time when it becomes a big deal, you have to have this much of a clue.  ( Indicates a half inch with his thumb and index finger. )
Chris :  It's just like a studio, you have to start with what's cool and everybody is going to watch it; or like in a studio, everybody listens to it.  Then if you build or change according.  It's like an art, just like recording is an art.  I guess, we all left there knowing if we did do a video again, it will take at least a couple of weeks to do it correctly.
Mike :  There is a disciple in doing a video correctly.  We are more natural doing the songs thru and thru.
Chris :  And we have become actors.
Mike :  Right.
Chris :  That's why a lot of musicians become actors too.  Look at Flee and Henry Rollins.
Mike :  Scores! (Laughs.)
Chris :  You get your start in Rock videos.
Ted :  It was fun lip synching to your own stuff.
Chris :  It was tough!  It was tough.
Ted :  You don't have to worry about being plugged in.  You know, it just doesn't matter; because you're not really playing and it's easier to jump around more.
Scott :  Ted got to pose more.
Ted :  Yeah, I got to jump around more.
Big Time :  Now Charlie Wing from Shark Sandwich helped you with that video.  ( At this point the whole band imitates Charlie Wing, saying "Charlie." )
Chris :  Yes he did.
Scott :  Yes, he did a good job.  He's very much cool.

Ted :  Thank you Charlie.  He's videotaped our shows.  I feel very sorry for him.

Mike :  He has to edit that stuff.

Ted : Yeah!

Chris : (Laughs.)

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 Big Time :  My next question is:  Do you possibly believe that now, that you are beyond the beginner stage ; that you face more problems from the big league players in the music industry?  Like the movers and the shakers?

Ted :  Bring it on.  Bring it on.  Just learn as we go and keep on going.

Chris:  If you don't have the attitude in this business... you got to be the hungriest when you have the chance to be around hard hitters, or you're going to look lie crap.

Mike :  You got to be able to take it on the chin too.

Chris :  Ah... Yeah.  That's right.

Big Time :  Can you go more into detail?

Mike :  You have to learn to deal with disappointment, because...

Ted :  You're playing gigs where you can't hear yourself.  The big bands want this done a certain way.  You just got to play by those rules, because

those are the guys backing up.  You have to bite your tongue and you have to do what you are told.  You have to be lucky to have the chance to be doing what you are doing.  Anytime you're in front of people you should be lucky that you are playing in front of people.  I'd rather be ding that, than playing in my room; whether we get paid or not, a lot of times we don't get paid.  We just play, because we want to get our there and play.
Chris :  I think a big part of our whole thing, is we are not just recording musicians either.  We really enjoy the live show.  That's a big part of it for us, is live performance.  And of course I think that every band wants to reproduce their stuff live, as best as they can.  I think it is equally as important.  Come our to see shows, I guess is what I'm trying to say.

Scott :  One thing I have to add is, another thing you have to deal with is humiliation.  You're going to get humiliated.  Something is going to happen where you're going to screw up in front of everyone, or you're going to have a night where only 9 people show up, where there was 1,595 people the week before, the next week is only 9.  Why?  Who knows?  But you got to swallow your pride, big time; and deal with the humiliation, because it's going to happen again and again and again.

                        I feel sorry for a lot of those bands that in the 80's sold like 20 million records, and now they are playing clubs in front of like 50 people.  They have to do the same thing and deal with the humiliation.  That's a big part of the music industry.
Ted :  yeah, you got to love playing.  If you don't like it, you don't love playing.  If you don't love playing, it'll never work out.  You'll never stick with it.  Your band will break up and that's it.

Chris :  It's a labor of love.

Big Time :  Now you mentioned 1,500 people.  Is that because of the show that you did at the Lewiston Armory?

Scott kind of. (Grinds) We had 1,500 people there.

Chris :  There was quite a few people at the Providence Rhode Island shows we did.

Scott :  2,000

Chris :  Yeah.

Ted :  And they even liked us, that was good.  You know? 

Chris :  Yeah, we were pleasantly surprised.  We didn't know, when we first, we really didn't know.

Ted :  (Laughs.)

Chris :  I think it was, "Are 800 people going to sit there and, ( while sitting on a bar stool, Chris places his right knee near his knee and rests his index finger across her chin.)  You know, after the first song?  I didn't know.  i could tell though.  I could start to feel the energy of the people about the end of the first song ; and they really responded well, and that definitely just  (signals upward direction, with hand showing something taking off,) kept the energy for the show happening.

Mike :  We got a lot of e - mail from that too.
Chris :  A lot of e-mail.
Mike :  Like the 4th of July show, and we got some e-mail for that.
Scott :  Written letters.  We got a lot of written letters too.
Mike :  Yes.  Some of them requesting merchandise.  Some of them the lyrics, because we didn't print the lyrics; we just printed the quotes from it, A lot of them was responding to the Providence shows, which was, you know, very, very good.
Ted :  If you want to find out what the lyrics are, because we don't have the lyrics printed on the C.D., you can call us, or send us in a thing.  you can call The Jack Shack at area code 207-784-xxxx.  Or you can write to us at P.O. Box xxx Auburn Maine.

Big Time :  04212.  What type of process did you folks have to go through, to get on W.T.O.S. and on other radio stations in Maine?
Mike :  Beer.

Group : (Laughs)

Ted :  Where you have to show up at the station with a six pack.

Mike :  Beer.  Where you got to know the guys.  You have to know what they drink, and you have to know where they are going to be, and you have to go :  "O.K. ...I'll bring some beer."

Ted : (Laughs)

Mike :  They will come up, listen to some tunes and if they like you, they'll play ya.

Scott :  It's called 120 to 150 people a week calling and saying, "I want some jack."  That's what it takes.  It doesn't take money.

Mike :  (Interjecting and correcting) And Beer.

Scott :  It doesn't take you know...

Chris :  Especially at first...

Scott :  We've spent a lot of money on major advertisement, and it doesn't help us out at all.  It's not the money, it's not the looks, it's the fans.

Chris :  You got to have people like what you do, that's true.  At first, especially at first.  Especially to get your first catapult into radio; and yes, thank you W.T.O.S. They have been wonderful to us.  They have been sincere to us.

Scott :  Thank you Woody, Chris Rush, Tom O, Jen Wyde.

Chris :  Mr. Mike and

Scott & Chris :  The Taz man.

Chris :  Yeap, he's just not with T.O.S. right now, but he's definitely the man.

Ted :  He is there.  He's there part time.  Isn't he?

Mike :  Isn't he fixing refrigerators right now?

Ted :  Oh no!

Chris (laughs)

Scott: Beers.

Ted :  Oh Yeah, he's jamming to Uncle Jack.

Big Time :  Now Uncle Jack, kind of, really broke the mold; because when I first met you, I had the feeling you guys didn't have the attitude what so ever.

Ted :  We've changed.

Scott :  We sold a thousand C.D.'s and now we're cool and now we have an attitude.

Ted :  Yeah right.

(Everyone laughs)

Big Time :  O.K. My next question is where do you think the music scene will be for the Central Maine area, in the next five years?

Chris : Wheww (muted whistle)

Scott :  Wheww (muted whistle)

Ted :  It's going to change.

Chris :  It's changing.  It's changing.

Ted : But things move so slow around here.  You know?  Don't expect anything major,-changes.  It's going to move slow around here.  It's unlike any other place.  That's why we want to keep playing around here in this this state; because once you get a fan in this state, they are loyal.  They don't change, they don't turn on you.  That's why we will always play here but we will try to play out or state more.

Chris :  You have to figure too, that Rock and Roll is now almost 40 years old: I mean electric Rock and Roll.

Ted :  Yeah.  He knows it pretty well.  Like I said, he's old.

Chris :  (Laughs)  Yeah, he's downing it. (laughs) But I think that's a part of the thing; there has to be more of a connection too.  Again, people have to like your music on their radio too, or on their cassette players, or whatever too; and that's what keeps it alive.

Scott :  Sad but true, O.K., even a lot of fans, 4 or 5 thousand people a night coming to see you, will not really help make the scene big.  What really, really helps is people like you, who are putting on shows, you know cable, advertising, radio stations, magazines, newspapers, that is what is going to make a difference in Central Maine.  Not so much the hfans, because once they have gone home at 1:00 in the morning, it's over with, it's done.  It's the press, it's the radio, and all that stuff that's going to make the difference.  If anyone wants to see a scene in Central Maine, it's going to be because they are going to be more people like you and T.O.S., who are helping us out and other bands too.  Press.  Press is the major thing, it's not so much the fans or the music.

Mike :  Guys like Ray.
Scott :  Razor Ray.

Ted : Tonight we are playing with a band called Ludevico Treatment, who are friends of ours, and you would know, an excellent band.  And there are so many good bands.  Well actually...there's a good handful of really good bands in the state, and they're not all from Portland either, and quite a few aren't actually.  Local cable access, (points to camera) stations like T.O.S. I can't mention any other station that gives local bands a chance.  Do you know what I mean?  And it's definitely W.T.O.S..  Definitely the radio stations need to play more local rock because there is some good stuff happening.  And there's good stuff happening, and there's good recorded, you know there's big sound. 

Big Time :  How much help has Backstreet records given you folks?  You folks have progressed a lot with you C.D. were they really supportive and professional?

Ted :  It gives us, basically we still do everything ourselves, I mean we still make our own money and we pay everything back.

Chris :  Yeah, they tested us about a year ago, we needed too, we ran out of our first C.D. we sold out.  we all agreed also, if we're going to re-order, that we should re-master it too.  Because we didn't have a huge budget when it first, when it first came out, that was Shrink. And...(Looks straight into the camera while holding the Shrink C.D. up to the camera)... In fact the new Shrink that you will buy now are re-mastered and they will now absolutely knock your (being selective of words while Scott says : "Butt off") China cabinets to pieces.

Scott : (Smiles while looking into the camera.)

Ted :  (Laughs)

Chris :  But anyway, they gave us the initial loan to re-order and re-master the C.D. and ah-yeah, you know, it's kind of how they tested us.  I think, and we paid it tight back , and turned it around and even made more merchandise in shirts, and stuff, and did the whole thing.  It's a business too, I mean there's nothing wrong with that, either, it's not...If you give people a good product, it's worth it, it is.

Scott :  He's treating us good.  We can't complain at all.  He loaned us about 30 Grand so far.  I mean he's treating us good.  He's the only one who believed in us at that point.  Now we are getting other people to look at us too, but he really believed in us first and he's giving us a good chance, and we're going to, we're going to...

Chris : Stick around for awhile. 

Scott :  Stick around for awhile, yeah.

Ted :  Backstreet Records by the way.  Backstreet Records.

Chris :  (While looking at he camera and holding up a C.D. package Adhesive on Backstreet Records.)


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Big Time :  Where do you see the band in five years?
Chris :  (Surprised by the question.)  Five years?

Mike :  Retired and fishing.

Chris :  (Laughs and points to Mike.)

Scott :  In the Caribbean.

Ted :  That's right fishing, it will be all over.  In fact this is our last gig.

Scott :  (Laughs.)  No.

Mike :  We did want to waits until the whole video...

Ted :  I probably shouldn't of said that.

Chris :  He let it leak out.

Ted :  (Laughs.)  There's a lot of problems within the band.

Chris :  A lot of people are really...

Ted :  Basically we really don't see it going much further than tonight.

Mike :  We pretty much hate each other.

Scott :  Actually, let's leave right now.

Ted :  O.K. I'm our of here.  (Stands up and walks heading off the set.)

Scott :  I can't stand your face no more.

Chris :  (Getting up.)  This is it. (Laughs.)

Big Time :   (Reeling band back in.)  O.K.

Ted :  (Laughs.)

Chris :  Five years, wow!

Ted :  Five years.

Mike :  I think a lot of us will have hearing problems by then; you know what I mean?

Chris :  I don't think we could, I don't think any of us have the capacity to look five years...

Scott :  I'll be 30!

Chris :  (Thinking.)  Five hours.

Scott :  I'll be old and come on!  I'll be bald literally.

Chris :  Shhessh!

Ted :  Hopefully, we will still be on Backstreet Records.  Though we will be on a bigger label, if not, and if not, it would be great if we were on an inside label; and still being able to make records.  I love to make some more records, at least to make some more.

Mike :  There's still a lot of music untouched that we've gone over.

Scott :  Bottom line:  "Rock will live forever."

Ted :  Yeah.

Chris :   Yeah.

Big Time :  So when do you think your next C.D. will be coming out?

Scott :  Fall next year.

Chris :  Fall next year...conceivably.

Mike :  I'm not going to say.  To be honest with you, I guess it depends on, whether we think we have the right material and at that point and time if we will make that decision.  You know?  I mean as far as...

Scott :  It's going to stomp on Adhesive, we're going to stomp this one before we...

Mike :  Right, we said that last time and we all agreed to ourselves that this one stomped on the last one so we don't...

Ted :  But they're all good.

Mike :  We don't have any barriers, because I think we haven't even touched upon our capabilities, as far as song writing.

Chris :  Yeah, that's true.

Ted :  We're all still young, we've only been together 2 1/2 years; just over 2  1/2, so we're still pretty young as a band.
Chris :  To really make a record though, you know most of the records or C.D.'s you put on your stereo, I mean let's say two or whatever...

Scott :  Aerosmith.

Chris :  And the hair stands up on the back of your neck, and you go like, "wow", thoses' albums took like 3 months, 2-3 months to record.  A lot of pre-production, a lot of going over hearing new things.  You create when you go into the studio, you sculpt when you have in the studio, the killer, the more killer of an album you come out with.

Mike :  Well, so if you hear of us taking a break, and don't see us around for like 6 months, you'll know what we'll be doing.

Ted :  Yup, Exactly.  We're in the studio, but we won't take two months probably.  We will probably, you know, it might take a month.  We took 2 1/2 days for our first one and a week for our second album.  So this one, if we do a month, it would be a luxury...

Chris :  Yes, right, that's true.

Ted :  It would be like living in heaven.

Big Time :  Do you guys think you might put it on real time video for the Internet, for people worldwide to watch it?

Ted :  Yeah, yeah, we're working on that now.

Big Time :  When do you think that will be coming out?

Ted :  I don't know.  Ray.  (Calling our to Razor Ray who's standing off the set.)

Mike :  Yeah Ray.

Ted :  He needs to be here.

Mike :  Question for you.  (Sounding like Ted Kopple of ABC's Nightline.)

Big Time :  (Looking into the camera.)  We're going to be bringing Razor Ray out here real quick.

Ted :  Come on out Ray.  (Looking into the camera.)  This is God by the way.

Big Time :  (Forgetting the initial question.)  Is there any chance that the real time video will be on the Internet; with some of the records and some of the video's that Uncle jack has been putting out?

Razor Ray :  Definitely! Definitely.  We will be putting them right on.  Have it all advertised on the Internet; so all over the world these- everybody can check out the magazine, check out this show and check out Uncle Jack.


Big Time :  O.K.  This is Doug Papa from The Maine Music.  I mean this is Doug Papa from Big Time Music Trade Magazine.
Ted :  (Laughs.)  He's going to go to sleep now.  (Patting Doug on the back.)

Mike :  (Flashing yanking hand signals in Doug's face, towards the camera.)

Razor Ray :  And you're going to buy the record.

Ted :  Buy the record.

Scott (Smiles.)

Chris :  (Holds up the two Uncle Jack C.D.'s for the camera.)

Mike :  Buy.

(Then everyone breaks out of character.)

Big Time :  How long did that take?

James Annis (Behind camera.)  How long was that anyway?

Razor Ray :  20 minutes.

James :  O.K.

Big Time :  O.K. Do you want me do about Ahh...

James :  No, that's good.

Big Time :  (As camera fades out.)  O.K..  Do you want me to do about five minutes...(Screen goes black.)

James :  I like that, you guys said, "let's leave right now."  You know you guys started to walk away.  I like that, that was cool.

Big Time :  (Checking notes with head down.)

James :  Alright, you ready?

Big Time :  Hold on.

Ted :  Let's get our of here, we should have just left. (Laughs.)

Mike :  He comes back, "Well, Ah, where are they?"

Ted :  And as we leave, we go, "get this camera our, 'b a-jeash!' ( Shoves open hand near the top of Doug's head, who's still looking at his cue cards, without a clue.)

Ted & Mike :  (Laughs.)

Mike :  Do an "O.J."  (Shoves hand on the side of Ted's face and while pushing it to one side he goes..."Crussshhashhh.")

Ted :  (Laughs.)

Mike :  Well.

Big Time : (Puts notes away.)

Ted :   When did you write these up?  Recently?

Big Time :  Yeah, I just threw this whole thing together yesterday. (Questions, camera man, Interview, having Crazy River as a set and etc..)

Ted :  (Laughs)  Really?

Big Time :  yeah.  O.K. You ready?  Hi, This is Doug Papa.

James :  Wait.  Wait.

Big Time :  O.K.

James :  Cut.

Razor Ray :  You realize this isn't Hempstock.

Mike :  (Making motions with hands, like a puppet talking - thumb opening and closing with other fingers similar to a mouth.)

Ted :  (Moving mouth behind Doug imitating his words.)

Big Time :   Hi, this is Doug Packer--Doug Papa, here with Uncle Jack at Crazy River, in Augusta Maine.  Do you folks have a lot of trouble when it comes to groupies?

Ted :  Groupies?  We don't have as much of a problem as we would like to have with groupies.  We could probably like to have more groupies.  It's not like the old days, when groupies were in abundance.  they're there, but you need more.  I won't be afraid to say that.

Big Time :  Do you folks have any problems with your hearing and stuff like that, since your music is so loud?

Mike :  What?

Chris :  Huh?

Scott :  What's that?

Ted :  I think he said something about Scott.

Scott :   Huh?  Rocky our soundman is awesome!!

Big Time :  Do you have any problem with your hearing loss?

Chris :  Something to do with a cow.

Scott :   (Laughs)  Actually I do.

Chris :  (Places right ear on the microphone Doug holds to Scott's voice.)

Big Time :  Are you trying to wear any hearing protection to try to save your hearing?

Chris :  Yeah, he has hair protection.  (Points to Scott's hair on the left side.)  This will shield any on coming cymbal noise.

Scott :  Actually, ironically; I got some earplugs form the factory I work at.  I'm getting careful about that, because I'm getting paranoid about that.  It's bad enough that I'm getting the wrinkles and the hair loss, I got to make sure the hearing stays there.  (Laughs.)

Chris :  there are some rooms; when we played last week and a small stage.  My ears rang for a day and a half.  So it really depends on the room.  Some rooms, it's really not that bad.

Big Time :  Do you guys try to watch your diet, while you are on tour?

Mike :  Well, cheeseburgers definitely.

Chris :  I'm on a "see food," diet.

Ted :  You can tell these guys do. (Points to Chris and Scott.) But, you know, I, we, ( points to himself and Mike.)

Mike :  We just work.  (Laughs.)

Chris :  (Flexes large biceps on left arm, then points outwards, while stating,)  The beach is that way.

Ted :  (Laughs.)  Oh God, well anyway.

Chris:  Oh God.

Scott :  Oh God.

Ted : (realizes he just got ranked on and smirks.)

Big Time :   Do you think that Maine can become another music Mecca, with the help of the Lewiston and the Auburn area; since Portland can't do it on it's own?

Ted :  What do you mean?  LIke Seattle?

Big Time :  Yeah.

Mike :  I think everybody has got to have the airplay, the publicity, and a lot of time stuff like that costs huge amounts of money.  Bands just don'...

Chris :  I don't think there's enough people in Maine.

Mike :   There isn't enough people in Maine for a band to support.  right?  That large of a sum to get that much of an airplay.

Chris :  That large.

Mike :   Right, that large of a sum to get that much airplay.

Chris :  Seattle, there's a lot of people in that city.  Los Angeles, there's a lot of people.

Mike :  right, a lot of people and a lot of bands.

Scott :  Seattle has the population as the whole entire State of Maine.

Mike :  I'm sure there's a lot of bands in the wash from Seattle.  Do you know what I mean?  There's just enough people to come up with the price tag; so they don't get the airplay.

Chris :  But that's O.K..  Though, where you were talking about the Internet earlier, I mean, more and more it's a global thing today.  It's opened up to everybody.

Mike :  As far as Maine, I think all the radio stations got to be open to local music, for Maine to actually get on "the map."

Scott :  Not to be bias towards "certain bands," because they're from "certain places," to be able too...or to pick and choose all around Maine.  If a guy's from Van Buren, Maine and they're a good band, play 'em.  It shouldn't have to be from just Portland, or just from, it seems...

Mike :  Or, just from Lewiston.

Scott :  The thing is, like us.

Mike :  You know WRBC they play a lot of Lewiston stuff, but they paly all kings of other stuff; you know local stuff.

Big Time :  Do you think the cliques down in Portland is hampering the music scene from expanding more?

Mike :  No, I just ...I just think...they're just hurting themselves more than anything.  They're losing out on a lot of good bands; you know, that could be doing the same thing they are.

Ted :  With the exception of a couple of new clubs that opened up, the scene is dry, every where, every where in the state.   It's dry, it's going back to the point where nobody is going back our anymore.  So we're trying to give people a reason to come out.  Jump around, move around on stage a little bit more.  Give them a reason...people don't want to see guys standing up there and doing; (Ted freezes for a second.)  You know, just standing in one place.  That worked for a while, but it's really not getting people out anymore.

Chris :  People want to be entertained.

Ted :  People want to be entertained.  So we give them a reason to come out.  Besides, it's funner, it's funner to get into it a little bit more, and jump around.

Mike :  We have a much better time.

Chris :  yeah.

Mike :  As a band, you know, we laugh, and have fun.

Scott :  Laugh and cry.

Ted :  Laugh and swear.

Chris :  Drink some beer.

Mike :  I only cry because there is a lot of sweat in my eyes.

Ted :  (Laughs out loud.)

Scott & Chris :  (Smirks)

Ted :  I've cried because I play barefoot and step on things.

Chris :  (Quietly cracks up in laughter.)  Nothing.

Scott :  (Smiles.)



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Big Time :  My next question is, Do you think, honestly, that Uncle Jack has actually hit upon a style, and it has become so popular, so fast, that it just might become the "next thing," in the music industry?  I mean, it's got a hybrid of so many different styles.
Mike :  We're all crossing our fingers for that one.
Ted :  We still got a lot of growing.
Chris :  It would be great...the people will decide.  We just got to do what we got to do.
Mike :  Right.

Chris :  And that's what we,--what you hear on these albums.  ( Holding up two C.D.'s one is Shrink, the other is Adhesive.)  Or what we're trying to do is contemporary and modern;  but as you probably have heard, we're not a copy cat band.  We have our own style and our own sound.

Ted :  But, we all feel that we can get better at it.  I think we can get better.  I think if we put out ten albums, each one, in our minds would be better than the last one; because we could always get better on them.

Chris :  That's the attitude you have to have.  You got to have that attitude.  That's what creates, really good pieces of work.

Ted :  The next C.D. will be better at doing, at what we're doing on these two C.D.'s, maybe a little bit more expanded and a little bit more better.  You know, a little bit different here and there.  You are going to see Uncle Jack change.

Big Time :  What type of changes do you think you'll be doing on the vocal for the upcoming C.D.?

Scott :  (Laughs nervously and smiles.)  Well, ah...(thinks.)

Ted :  (Laughs.)

Scott :  Less screaming more melody.

Big Time :  Do nay of you folks study music theory what so ever?

Scott :  I have in High School.

Chris :   yeah, when I was in High School.  I played in the High School band, chorus and studied music theory.

Scott :  Tuba. (Smiles.  Indicating Chris playing tuba in High School.)

Big Time :  do you think that the band might move on to that, to help you move into more experimental stages?

Chris :  (Scrunches face for a second in thought.)  I think that's what this band is about.  We're not a theory band.  Although all of us have touched upon that stuff.  Mike was in a drum and bugle core.  Right?  Were you at one point in your life?

Mike :  Yeah.

Chris :  And in Band and stuff.  We all had enough of the training when we were young.  When we were young, I believe all of us were playiing music.

Scott :  (Raises hand indicating five.)   I started when I was five.

Chris :  Yeah.  (Pointing to Scott.)  He was probably the youngest out of all of us.  I think we were all playing instruments at least about 10-13 years old.  So, that's going to have an effect on chops, theory and stuff.  It's really not, I guess, I lost track of what I was about to say.

Ted :  Music theory is great.  Anybody who shuns it...

Chris :  You get caught on it.  You can rely on it.  You know it's a great thing.  And there are some musicians who can really have the ability to be a good feel player and a good paper player.  Some people are incredible with paper in front of them, you take it away and they can't do a thing.  Other people, you put paper in front of them and they freeze up.  I think the bottom line is:"are you making people move with emotionswith your music?"

Scott :  Whether it's one cord or sixty-five arpeggios, if you...

Mike :  Move.

Scott :  Make somebody move after one cord, then you have done your job.

Chris :  Yeah, but learn theory.  But when you are a kid, (Looks straight into the camera,) this is for all/any kids who might be watching. don't, yes, don't count that out.  Do learn how to read music.  When your're young that's when you got to do that stuff.

Ted :  Even if your favorite band is Nirvana, learn music theory, because...

Chris :  Right, learn music theory, because you're going to rely and it's going to give you something to fall back on later in which we do.  I'm not patting ourselves on the back, but we all have the tendency to have a little bit of flare of the chops in our playing.

Ted :  And if you totally 'dis having musically, trying to be musically...we want to express our selves.  Whether it's with a grunge dirty song or a song that's a little bit more...

Chris :  Maybe a little bit more fusion feel like "Is I ugly,"  with a little middle interlude that you think might be Miles Davis for a minute. (Laughs.)

Ted :  Maybe a little bit more fusion, or a little bit more musically, why have limitations?  Who's to say, "No you can't act like you have any musically knowledge because it's not hip."  You know.

Chris :  (Laughs.)  Ayuhp.

Ted :  What?  That's probably the most disturbing thing is, that people are actually out their discouraging musically/ music theory stuff, where that's ridiculous.  We grew up in the 80's when all the guitar hero's were out and all of that stuff was happening.  You can't deny where you came from.  I'm not going to lie to you and say that Elvis Costello was my hero, because he wasn't; it was Van Halen and Dokken.  And other things to, you try to keep an open mind to everything, which means you can't disclose anything.  You have to keep it all going, but to each it's own.  But Music Theory is good.

Big Time :  do you have anything to add to that?

Mike :  What he said.

Scott : (Smiles.)

Ted : (Laughs.) Here have another beer.  (Hands Mike his plastic Budweiser cup.)

Big Time :  (Smiles.)  That's what everyone says.  I always say that.  My next question is, is there any closing statements you'll like to make to the audiences besides "see our shows," to make an impact on our viewers?

Scott :  Ahhh... (Thinking fast after being put on the spot.)  Sponsors and press, help out, help us out, help all musicians out we need you.

Ted : (Looking square into the camera.)  When you see these big national bands, and they are so great, they are great for one reason, only the fans.  If you see a band that you like that is local and you kind of like
them, do whatever you can.  If you got some free time or whatever, support them, because chances are if they got more support they will be even better.  They will perform even better and they'll your see them a lot more, so...
Chris :  Continue to support music period, because you know, it makes you feel good.  It makes you feel emotional.  Music I think is good therapy.

Ted :  ( Nodding head in genuine agreement. ) Yeah.

Chris :  Good therapy.  It does.  I mean.....( holds up 2 C.D.'s ) Buy it.....

Ted :  I would like to buy the whole world a coke.

Chris :  You will be massaged --thoroughly.

Chris &  Ted :   ( Laughs )

Big Time :   How about yourself?

Mike :  ( Thinks for a few moments )  Ah-what he said.  ( Mike laughs and all other smile. )

Ted :  Peace, love and stuff.

Chris :  Thank you guys.

Big Time :  Whoa !!!  I do have one more question, for the people watching this, Do you folks give music lessons what so ever?

Chris :  ( Points to Ted. )  I used to.

Ted :  I do !  I want you to know ( looks straight into the camera, ) I live in Portland Maine.

Chris :  ( Laughs )

Ted :  My phone number is ( speaking fast ) 772- XXXX.

Big Time :  Can you say that one more time slowly?

Ted :  772-XXXX and ah I give lessons, that's what I do.

Big Time :  How much do you charge an hour ?

Ted :  You know, it's a good fair price.  We'll get into that once you call.

Chris :  ( Laughs. )

Big Time :  O.K.... This is Doug Papa from Big Time Music Trade Magazine  here with Uncle Jack, and we will see you, in the future.

Chris :  ( Holding up 2 C.D.'s )

Ted & Mike :  ( Salute the camera.  Ted like the military when bringing hand down, Mike like ZZ Top.  Then Mike snaps his fingers and hits palm of his hand against fist like Curly in the Three Stooges, and waves off like ZZ Top.

Mike :  You know what I'm saying.
Ted :  Wow that was cool, you even plugged guitar lessons ( Laughs )  if anyone calls that would be great.

Mike and Chris shakes Doug's hand and everyone walks off set.